Ok I see this...this...ridiculousness pop up every once in a while and I just thought I would address it. This is actually response to this comment I saw on a youtube video :
" I believe ppl got all wrong with the all seeing eye, its not Lucifer its Yahweh, from my own direct experience Yahweh is a reptilian Annunaki god who is in control of humanity, the serpent in the garden is actually the good guy you just have to look at the message and who is trying to empower you, is it empowering to have to submit to a dictator god or the realization that you can become your own god? GNOSIS!"
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I've heard this over and over again over the last few years and frankly I find it one of the dumbest idea's I've ever come across. So lets actually look at the story from Genesis, at least the parts that pertain to this, and see exactly why this guy is wrong.
"And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.s14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.s15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. Gen 2:8
"And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:s17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. "
Gen 2:16
Ok so at this point God has created the entire universe and Adam and now on the Earth, God has created a special garden just for man, and from the description it sounds like some place I wouldn't mind going, four rivers, gold, animal, all the fruit you can eat and every body is running around naked. One exception, God has put two special tree in the middle of the garden. "The tree of life", which when we read further we would have gotten to eat from had we not disobeyed, and the tree of "Knowledge of Good and Evil" and all he said was do not eat from the the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, that's it. Had Adam and Eve listened we'd all be running around naked, eating from the tree of life and playing with our pet velociraptors (nothing ate meat till after the flood) and communing with our creator. I don't know about you but that sounds like a pretty sweet life to me.
Then enter Satan who came disguised as a snake (which is...wait for it...a reptile) and tempted Eve to eat from the tree.
Genesis 3:1-5 ESV
"Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.
He said to the woman, "Did God actually say, 'You shall not eat of any tree in the garden'?"
And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
So...Satan came to Eve and said "ya know God the guy who made you and the rest this stuff? Screw him do what you want and eat from the tree and it'll make you a god too." And she did and then he did and it's all been down hill from there.
All this we have to deal with now, war, hate, famine, disease, government, all this came from that one disobedient act. So how does this make Lucifer the "good guy"? I don't see it. Because after this God kicks out of the garden and because sin has entered in to and currupted us and the rest of creation and now every thing is a struggle. So if the God who loves us and created a paradise for us is evil and the reptile who helped get us kicked out is good well then color me evil! But God is not evil, he is good Jesus says only God is good and he wants us to go back to paradise. In fact he loves us so much and is so good he sent his only son to suffer and die for us so we can go back to paradise.
So is Yhvh an annunaki alien, reptilian overlord? No, it's a lie and it seems to be one of Satans favorites. That God is bad and you can be a god. But God is good and infite and we are flawed an finite.
However all is not lost, like I said, our good, infinite, perfect God sent his only son Jesus Christ to redeem us, so we can go back to paradise and not have to spend eternity in torment, in hell with Satan and his demons.
As far as the message the poster was talking about. Gods message is love. Eternal, unconditional love but he cannot abide sin, that is why need Jesus.
Satans message is hate, greed, selfishness. He hates God and he hates you.
So what's your choice?
I think the confusion here is the confusion of ancient peoples. Thousands of years ago, people looked into the Kingdom of Israel and saw God's chosen people and the works of God. Those looking into the kingdom were living under a false god, but instead of converting to the one true God, Satan twisted their hearts so that they thought this was their god acting in Israel. Modern Christians face the same twisted hearts that explain "away" God. Sometimes they even cite the records of the same misled ancient peoples: God has a wife, God is an alien, God is lord of the volcanos, etc.
ReplyDeleteLOL! This has got to be one of the biggest loads of crap I've come across in... I can't remember anything dumber in recent memory.
ReplyDeleteYahweh is a reptilian Annunaki god...
Actually, whoever wrote that got it wrong. Annunaki =/= reptilians! Annunaki are said to be a mammalian race, or perhaps "repto-mammals." The reptilians are an entirely different species/faction. Read Zechariah Sitchin...
I've heard this over and over again over the last few years and frankly I find it one of the dumbest idea's I've ever come across...
Ironically, you wrote this blog entry, which is even dumber, by far!
One exception, God has put two special tree in the middle of the garden. "The tree of life", which when we read further we would have gotten to eat from had we not disobeyed, and the tree of "Knowledge of Good and Evil" and all he said was do not eat from the the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, that's it.
But why shouldn't Adam or Eve eat from the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil? Because to do so would mean disobeying God. MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: How would either of them know that disobeying God is "wrong" if neither had the KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL?
Had Adam and Eve listened we'd all be running around naked, eating from the tree of life and playing with our pet velociraptors (nothing ate meat till after the flood) and communing with our creator. I don't know about you but that sounds like a pretty sweet life to me.
Please don't tell me you actually believe this shit...
Then enter Satan who came disguised as a snake (which is...wait for it...a reptile) and tempted Eve to eat from the tree.
ReplyDeleteYou are either an idiot or a liar, or both. The good news is, you're not alone. Many people erroneously believe that the serpent in Genesis is "Satan" or "the Devil" when in fact that is clearly not the case. You are reading what is not there!
So...Satan came to Eve and said "ya know God the guy who made you and the rest this stuff? Screw him do what you want and eat from the tree and it'll make you a god too."
Which illustrates my point. Eve did not have the Knowledge of Good and Evil, ergo, she had no concept of morality, of ethics, of right and wrong. Everything was a simple matter of obeying commands. How would she know it was wrong to obey the serpent and disobey God?
God: I am God, ROAR! You may eat from any plant except that tree.
Adam & Eve: Uuuuh, okay...
Magical Talking Snake: Yo, Eve! Try this fruit.
Eve: No way, God said not to.
MTS: Come on Eve, don't be a chicken shit, it's awesome!
E: Well gee [I do not yet have a working conscience and thus do not know that it's a bad thing], okay, what's the worst that can happen. (she eats the fruit) Yo, Adam! Try this fruit!
Adam: But God said not to, it's very bad!
E: Well I ate the fruit and I'm just fine! See?
A: Okay!
[Later on, God takes a walk through the garden. YES, WALK!]
God: Why are you hiding?
A&E: We're naked!
God: What? Who says? ...oh, you ate the damned fruit didn't you?
So how does this make Lucifer the "good guy"?
(1) Lucifer is NOT the magical snake. The serpent from the Book of Genesis, Satan, and Lucifer are all three distinct figures. The Christian Church (deliberately?) confused all three, conflating them into the figure known as "the Devil."
(2) In the context of the Genesis myth, whether or not the snake is a "good guy" or "bad guy" is debatable but ultimately moot, but God is definitely NOT a good guy. Let's see, he created an entire universe (WHY? Because he was bored off his ass, that's why. It was apparently enough to amuse him for a week...) complete with stars and land and plants and animals and even human beings. But he fucked up by forgetting to provide his human beings with autonomous conscience. Instead he stupidly confined all Knowledge of Good and Evil into a magical fruit tree (of which he expressly forbid human consumption). Then, he punished Adam and Eve for disobeying, even when they DID NOT KNOW ANY BETTER! Yeah, sounds like a real bad guy to me...
In fact he loves us so much and is so good he sent his only son to suffer and die for us so we can go back to paradise.
ReplyDeleteThat's a little fucked up. Why would any being need to suffer and die just so Almighty God can fix one of his fuckups?
But God is good and infite and we are flawed an finite. However all is not lost, like I said, our good, infinite, perfect God...
Everyone assumes that (the Biblical) God is all-seeing, all-knowing, and all-powerful, but that can not be further from the truth! The biblical God is most definitely NOT immutable, infallible, infinite, omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, perfect, or any other superlative. He is not even intangible! Yahweh was just a tribal deity. The inventors of the Christian religion simply attributed all those superlatives to the Godhead falsely, following a primitive form of the ontological argument. God just HAD to be perfect, all-powerful, flawless, etc. because, well, he's "our" God! Damn it! Essentially a sort of Neo-Platonist mental masturbation.
It is obvious that you've never actually read the Bible. Sure, you can copy and paste, but you, like virtually every other Christian has never actually read your Bible and taken what it says at face value. You simply believe what your pastor told you about God and the Bible.
Had you actually read the Bible you would know that...
ReplyDeleteGod is neither omnipotent nor omniscient.
There are numerous stories of God TESTING his followers, usually involving painful tribulations, something an omniscient, or all-knowing, being would have no reason to do. Also, after creating the entire universe in only 6 days, he required a nap for the entire 7th day. (Very impressive, surely an incredibly powerful being, but not infinitely powerful.) Not to mention, that whole embarrassing incident where he was UNABLE TO STOP IRON CHARIOTS and, WITH AN ARMY NO LESS!
God and Satan are on the same side.
Satan is NOT the Devil. Satan is merely one of God's angels and a servant. Just read the Book of Job. (The Christians ripped off Zoroastrianism with their concept of a good God of light and an evil earth god, inventing the Devil in the process.)
The character of Jehovah/Yahweh is frequently described as wrathful and jealous.
Also, Judaism was originally polytheistic. Just look to the first creation account in Genesis. God is referred to as "Elohim" (the -im suffix being a plural suffix in Hebrew), literally "gods." "God" speaks in the first person plural "let us make God in our image."
Of chourse ChRistian APologetics literature comes up with absurd claims such as the original Genesis account is a reference to the Trinity (even though the Holy Trinity is mentioned nowhere in the Old Testament / TaNaK), or the somewhat less laughable claim that God is speaking with his angelic host.
Curiously, God Yahweh himself never claims that other deities do not exist, simply that they are not to be worshipped by his Chosen People, certainly not above Him at least. The book of Exodus implies that the Egyptian deities are real (albeit less powerful than the Jewish deity).
God is not merely spirit. He has a body.
There are numerous references to God having a physical form, breath, walking around, having a literal abode in the skies. There are even reference to Jehovah/Yahweh having HORNS! (The ancient Middle East being replete with horned deities.)
*Sorry, "let us make God in our image." Should have been "let us make Man in our image." But note that he says "male and female" implying that the Elohim were a pantheon containing both male and female deities.
ReplyDeleteThere are only three possible explanations for the god Yahweh of the Hebrews:
ReplyDelete(1) The Gnostic Interpretation - Jehovah/Yahweh is not the True God, but a demonic demiurge, creator/corruptor of a dark and evil material world. [And Jesus is/was a servant of the True God, but Saul the Jew hijacked his movement, founding Christianity as Yahweh worship for the Gentiles.]
(2) Yahweh is purely a fictional character invented by the Jews.
(3) Ancient Astronaut Theory - Yahweh is a malicious extra-terrestrial being, perhaps a reptilian, but not necessarily. The biblical "god" is in fact an evil alien.
While I do not personally agree with #1, I do find Gnosticism to be very fascinating and interesting. Of course, if one assumes that the supernatural beings (deities, angels, demons) mentioned in the Bible are in fact supernatural and NOT sufficiently advanced aliens or purely mythological, then Gnosticism is the only reasonable interpretation.
The good news is that there is no evidence of Yahweh in history! So of course, I subscribe to #2.
Of course if Yahweh did exist (he doesn't and never did!), such a being would be unimaginably malevolent. The character of God in the Bible is a demonic piece of shit (though I think calling it such disparages the good name of fecal matter by comparison) utterly underserving of worship.
The Judaic god is a petulant child and an anal retentive control freak plagued with a laundry list of neuroses: paranoia, obsessive-compulsive disorder, narcissism, possibly schizoid tendencies...
I mean have you ever read the damn book? Whenever shit does not go his way the God of the Bible is always quick with a great flood or a plague. He demanded sacrifice of countless innocent animals, genocidal wars of conquest (sparing not even women and children, except maybe as slaves or concubines), he told Abra(h)m to prepare to sacrifice his beloved son to him as a test of loyalty (but later announced, "nah, Abraham, just fucking with you!"), but instead imposed infant genital mutilation as a sign of his covenant. [That very same male genital mutilation that the Jews tricked idiot Goyim into adopting in the USA and other Anglophone countries years ago, because you know, apparently shearing off skin and flesh is more sanitary than washing said body part the same as any other body part, like with soap and water.]
Why you or anyone would want to worship such a bloodthirsty megalomaniacal despot is beyond me. Because he created us? First of all, no he didn't! Second of all, even if he did, so what? He didn't have to, rather he created us for his amusement and entertainment. Hardly benevolent!